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Everything that's wrong with Blu-Ray

In my opinion, leaflets like this represent the real problem with the Blu-Ray standard. Sure its easy for ME to figure out how to upgrade the firmware of a Blu-Ray player, but can you imagine explaining it to your mom to do? No technology should put so much responsibility in the hands of the user.

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uterdic
Jul. 14th, 2008 03:25 pm (UTC)
The exact same thing happened when DVD's first came around. The Matrix wouldn't play in most DVD players and almost no Disney movies would work in DVD players released after the DVD player was made because they put such hardcore copy-protection on them. Now the real problem is that the PS3 is the only DVD player with a Ethernet port on it, so it is the only one with firmware capabilities. Now, I have seen some DVD-R's with DVD's that contain firmware updates, but I don't know one way or the other for this situation.
sudrin
Jul. 14th, 2008 03:29 pm (UTC)
But this goes beyond growing pains like the ones you mention. The "Blu-Ray Profile" is a huge moving target. I've had to upgrade the firmware in my Blu-Ray player THREE times now to watch movies. Which is cool for you and I because we are technically inclined, but the PS3 is the only one that is Blu-Ray 2.0 profile compliant because it has a hard drive. There is no indication that this business will end anytime soon with the upgrading.
uterdic
Jul. 14th, 2008 03:33 pm (UTC)
Here's my common response to this sort of question. I get to give it a couple of times a week:

"Well then shame on you for not researching what you are buying before you buy it. If I were spending that much money on something, I would make sure it did what I thought it was going to do."

People get firmware updates on their computers from time to time, I imagine it will upset plenty of folks, but it would have been the same for HD-DVD, or any other type of technology that comes out today.
sudrin
Jul. 14th, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
My point isn't that i'm not capable, or even that *I* myself take umbrage to having to do it MYSELF. What I AM saying is, I don't want to have to do it for the rest of my family if I buy them a blu-ray player. I don't want to come home at Christmas or Thanksgiving to see weepy eyes and have them escort me to the blu-ray player because they want to watch Sunshine and they can't because they have to upgrade the Blu-Ray player and could I please fix it, even thought they are dreadfully sorry to inconvience me. By creating these home electronics requiring a lot of fiddily bits is generally anti-consumer. Imagine if your TV required firmware updates to watch the new episodes of Lost, or if your Car requires firmware updates to drive on the newer freeways.
uterdic
Jul. 14th, 2008 03:52 pm (UTC)
I understand what you are saying, but in order to keep technology new and working as well as it can, there will be occasional updates. I believe we will see more and more of this in the years to come. I totally agree that people should be warned to shown how to do it, but that has to do with documentation, and sales.

The other way to look at it is that it works exactly how it was supposed to work the day you bought it, and if you want to watch new things on it you will have to keep it a "new" system. I mean, I can't play new games on my old computer, so now I am supposed to be pissed each time something new comes out because it is newer than the stuff I bought a year or two ago. I think it's great that we have an upgrade path through firmware updates rather than having to upgrade to new players every few years.

Heck, most people don't even watch HD on their HDTV's. They are watching SD video which looks terrible on HD monitors, but because it's HD, they think it's a better image.
madush69
Jul. 14th, 2008 05:10 pm (UTC)
Moms don't need high definition. It's a guy thing.
sudrin
Jul. 14th, 2008 06:34 pm (UTC)
lol.. My Mom quite enjoys watching Desperate Housewives in HD!
frogdiva
Jul. 14th, 2008 06:31 pm (UTC)
We have Blue Ray options with the systems here, but I have yet to have a call on one. Is the firmware update similar to an CD/DVD drive firmware update? If so, then I HATE trying to describe those over the phone. USUALLY I can remote in and do it for them, but when I was in the consumer queue that wasn't always an option because SOME people were still on.....DIAL-UP!
sudrin
Jul. 14th, 2008 06:33 pm (UTC)
In that situation, I honestly have no idea. My gut feeling would be that it would be a software PLAYER (WinDVD, etc) update, however it might involve a firmware update directly to the Blu-Ray drive.
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