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Superior in most every way to its previous incarnation. Captures the right amount of action without just being non-stop. The only weakness seems to be in some of the special effects, which occasionally are very noticeable. Fortunately the story holds it all together nicely.

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lickingtoad
Jun. 14th, 2008 06:51 pm (UTC)
Stuff I noticed:

Samuel Sterns is supposed to be a mop-jockey, not a PhD; the whole point of his exposure story is that he was dumber than a sack of doorknobs and now he's the smartest guy around. (I'm biased, maybe, because I've used his origin in a script I'm working on.)

I guess they set him up as a 'future nemesis,' and Tim Blake Nelson will make a fine Leader, but it felt improvisational to make him Mr. Blue, is where I'm going with that. It could've been just some no-name University egghead and they wouldn't have whiffed on his beginnings.

If you're gonna make an entire CGI Abomination, why *not* give him three fingers and three toes? Small, stupid, comic-booky nitpicky point. But still.

Other than those things? Liked it. I love Edward Norton in ... scratch that, I just love Edward Norton. It's great that they got the script from someone who'd read the effing comics. That first one was so ... out there. Nick Nolte. (... just had to throw that in.)
madush69
Jun. 15th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
I truly enjoyed it. Ang Lee can jump in a lake.
kjtoo
Jun. 16th, 2008 08:00 pm (UTC)
Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky just didn't work for me. I know you're a hardass, but I would think a professional soldier would at least acquaint his scraggly cheeks with a Norelco when he puts on his dress uniform; he looked like a slob. Also, he's four feet tall, which is amusing when he's standing next to the Hulk, but silly when he's standing next to General Ross (William Hurt). I like Tim Roth, but this wasn't a good role for him.

The love story felt disjointed. That might have something to do with the reported 70 minutes of story that was cut from the theatrical release. I would like to have seen Liv Tyler do a little more than glare at her father and make puppy dog eyes at Bruce.

I enjoyed the several nods to the original, live-action television series (though the origin reboot over the opening credits was a little rushed), including the strains of "The Lonely Man" that played at least twice and the very Bill Bixby-ish haircut Norton sported in the aforementioned origin reboot. Bruce fumbling the "you won't like me when I'm angry" lines in Portuguese was cute, as was the inclusion of Jack McGee.

Overall, I like what they did with the CGI Hulk. I wasn't as enamored with Abomination, but the final showdown was pretty satisfying.

William Hurt has the "stare at you with slightly furrowed brow and cock his head slightly to the side" move down cold. Just sayin'.

I was intrigued by the final scene w/Bruce, as it seems to suggest that he is either completely losing control of the Hulk or is actually gaining control. Could go either way.

As for the coda with Tony Stark, that was pretty much ruined by one of the recent television trailers. It was nice to tie it together with Iron Man (and, more importantly, The Avengers), but it was a bit too glib when compared to the tone of the rest of the movie, and felt very muh like a "walk on, say your lines, walk off" thing from Robert Downey Jr. (even though he didn't actually walk off).

Oh, and I actually enjoyed the Ang Lee version, though there are scenes that I will completely skip over (such as the fight with the stupid mutant dogs). If he got nothing else right, Lee nailed the Hulk vs. The Military sequence that leads to the end of the movie.
sudrin
Jun. 16th, 2008 08:14 pm (UTC)
Well, I honestly didn't HATE the Ang Lee version until "Daddy Hulk turns into a super...whatever" but for some reason I just ENJOYED this one more.

The scene with Banner at the end touched on one of the things I was intrigued about the first time around "when I totally lose control... I like it."

I agree though that the last two marvel movies are really making sure at the end you get the idea "Hey, we are going to have more movies coming up".

I like Ang Lee's physical Hulk better, but someone at work this morning told me that the one in this movie was more like someone would look with "zero percent body fat".. I can't speak to how true that is though. Ang Lee did get the "Madder he gets the stronger he gets" thing. This movie didn't seem to make much of that. I also didn't care for the abomination. It was nice of his mutation to create some bone undies though. Poor Banner and his endless purple pants.

I suppose in the end i'm just hoping for some Marvel movies that deliver without decending into the cheese of Ghost Rider. If Eva Mendes hadn't been in that I probably wouldn't have finished it.

Maybe William Hurt was doing what Sergio Leone described as Clint Eastwoods two acting styles: "The One with the Hat, and the one without"

I suppose I have to agree with you about Liv Tyler. They didn't give her much to work with, and she ends up seeming more like a lab bimbo than someone who presumably knows a few things. Fortunately she never said (of the Hulk) "If you want him, come and claim him!".
kjtoo
Jun. 17th, 2008 05:20 pm (UTC)
I've been playing The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction on my Xbox Classic lately (having just beaten Marvel Ultimate Alliance last week) and the in-game Hulk physically resembles the Ang Lee version, which strongly resembles the Hulk seen in comic books in the mid-1990's and later.

The Leterrier Hulk is also physically faithful to the comics, but in an earlier era. The new version reminds me very strongly of the Hulk in the mid-to-late 1980's.

Incidentally, the scene where Hulk cuts a police car in half and then uses the pieces as boxing gloves is taken straight out of The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. If you haven't played the game, it's like they dropped the Angry Man into the Grand Theft Auto franchise.
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